[Cameleer]

Here are the photos I've gotten done so far from this last trip to
India. Use the buttons at the lower right of the panos for going to the
next one.
More photos will be added later.

Nagaur Cattle Fair. Dancing horse and dancing camel competition.
http://indiavrtours....ing_horse4.html

Jaisalmer Desert Festival. Camel parade staging area near the lake,
and following the camels going through town to the fort. This link
has about 5 photos.
http://indiavrtours....l_staging4.html

Here are some other views from around the Jama Masjid and Red Fort
in Delhi. This link has about 6 photos.
http://indiavrtours....jid_tower4.html


Delhi, Qutub Minar. 3 photos shown here.
http://indiavrtours....tub_minar4.html


Mehrangarth Fort Wall, Blue City Below.
http://indiavrtours....blue_city4.html



Cheers,
Roger Berry

[john.sw]

My internet connection is pretty slow, but it was so worthwhile waiting for the images to load!

Roger, you're a master of your art - the VR photographs are, as usual, absolutely stunning!

Thank you!

[Hyderabadi]

Another great set of VR tours Cameleer! Thanks!

[Cameleer]

Hyderabadi, on Mar 2 2009, 10:34 AM, said:

Another great set of VR tours Cameleer! Thanks!

Here are some new 360 panoramic photos that I’m working on.
These are from around Alwar, Siliserh Lake, Sariska Tiger Sanctuary and the haunted ruins of Bhangarh. This link will bring up a map with the links.  
http://www.indiavrto...google_map.html

This one is of the Sariska Tiger Sanctuary that I had some fun with, took most of the day to do.
http://www.indiavrto...y_morning4.html

A lot more work ahead,
Hope you enjoy them.

[Hyderabadi]

Cameleer, on Mar 12 2009, 02:26 PM, said:

A lot more work ahead,
Hope you enjoy them.

Always appreciate and enjoy your work Cameleer!

Just a suggestion, not sure about how practical it is though: how about adding a small looped sound file of the ambient sounds? Optional?

Thanks again.

[Cameleer]

Hyderabadi, on Mar 13 2009, 03:20 PM, said:

Always appreciate and enjoy your work Cameleer!

Just a suggestion, not sure about how practical it is though: how about adding a small looped sound file of the ambient sounds? Optional?

Thanks again.

I know the audio needs work and have spent days trying to set it up different.
On the MP3 player I can’t get it to loop or set the sound down to about 25 percent.
What I’m thinking now is to redo the audio where the first few seconds there is no sound, and then it slowly comes up to about 25 percent of what it is now for some light background sound.

[Hyderabadi]

Cameleer, on Mar 13 2009, 09:57 PM, said:

What I’m thinking now is to redo the audio where the first few seconds there is no sound, and then it slowly comes up to about 25 percent of what it is now for some light background sound.

Looking forward to that!

You know, even if that does not work, it should still be amazing.

BTW, I am still wondering how you got all those animals, Tigers, birds and all in the same picture - Sariska(rather, pano)?

Did you have to shoot the pictures at various times? I do admire your amazing patience then!

Thanks.

[Cameleer]

Hyderabadi, on Mar 13 2009, 08:35 PM, said:

BTW, I am still wondering how you got all those animals, Tigers, birds and all in the same picture - Sariska(rather, pano)?
Did you have to shoot the pictures at various times? I do admire your amazing patience then!

Thanks.

Well let me tell you its kind of like this… better yet, take a look at the pano again and see what’s changed.
http://www.indiavrto...y_morning4.html

How did that get there?


Ok for those that did not see the original pano, there is now a tiger climbing up on the hood of the jeep.

Edited by Cameleer, 14 March 2009 - 03:56 PM.

[Hyderabadi]

Cameleer, on Mar 14 2009, 05:02 AM, said:

How did that get there?

Due to artistic liberty?

[Hyderabadi]

Cameleer, would it be too much if I asked  how you standardize each shot, before creating the pano?

I have the basic idea but, I thought I'd ask.

[Cameleer]

Hyderabadi, on Mar 14 2009, 11:09 AM, said:

Cameleer, would it be too much if I asked  how you standardize each shot, before creating the pano?

I have the basic idea but, I thought I'd ask.

You need to rotate your camera to Portrait mode. With my fisheye this gives me about 200 degrees of view vertically.  
Put everything in manual mode.
Manual focus, white balance and fixed aperture.
I shot with the raw format so don’t wary about white balance.
I then shoot 4 photos, north, south, east and west.
The front of your lens will be your pivot point as you turn the camera taking the 4 shots.
I sometimes loop a thread around the front of the lens and will have a small fishing weight on the end next to the ground; this keeps the height even on all shots and by keeping the fishing weight over the same spot on the ground your pivot point will be good.

Then I run my 4 raw photos through PhotoShop and do some tweaking, save them as TIF's. Run them through PTgui for stitching the photos together. Back to PhotoShop for some more tweaking, run it through Neat Image to clean it up the noise (grain) a little, back to PhotoShop for some more tweaking. Then run it through Pano2QTVR to make it into a 6 sided cube (six photos). Back to PhotoShop to fix any errors, and then put the 6 photos along with a file called FFP into a folder and open it up for final viewing. If there are any errors its back to PhotoShop to fix them.  
Now the pano's ready to post on the internet, make 2 files, one html and one xml, add hotspots, set viewing angle, add information about place photo was taken and you’re done.  

I probably missed a few steps but you get the idea, it’s a lot of work!

[Hyderabadi]

Cameleer, on Mar 15 2009, 04:52 AM, said:

I probably missed a few steps but you get the idea, it’s a lot of work!

Thanks for that Cameleer! I'll have to try this out one of these days. I have played with 360° stitching in the past but nothing serious.

Yes, it is hard work looks like!

[Cameleer]

Doing that last post at 2am I now see there where typos in it.
Anyway, I changed the audio in this pano and added a few surprises when you mouse over some of the birds and animals. I’m planning to add more surprises soon.
http://www.indiavrto...y_morning4.html

[dzibead]

Amazing, as usual.  And even more impressive when I read through the technical stuff you go through to get these.  Is the audio the real ambient sound at the park?

[Cameleer]

That audio was taken from some video where there are Sombar deer and the country side was far greener during the wet season.

As for the technical stuff you also need to be very good with Photoshop. For close-up shots with things moving like elephants or camels walking by, your taking 4 shots and the animal will be in a different place on the overlapping shots. Recently I had a camel that came out with only its front 2 legs and the program blended it to look more like an ostrich, another time one came out with 6 legs looking like Stretch Limousine.
Other times I may have to remove people or even cars from the photos.

I have been working with some new futures (these can take days to learn) and here is the test page. I still need to add the audio and change some photos.
http://www.indiavrto...alwar/test.html
Another thing that takes much time is getting the info for the pages, like on that test pano what kind of bird is that large black one flying overhead?  

In Bangalore I shot some temples and still have not found out the name of this one, so for now it's labeled "Unknown Temple"
http://indiavrtours....e/temples4.html

On a good day spending around 12 hours I can usually get 5 panos put together, and I have around 300 of them on the site.

That should be a small b in the link for the Bangalore Temples, but it gets changed when I post it.

Edited by Cameleer, 19 March 2009 - 10:37 AM.

[iwanttogoback]

wow! i've just been to fatephur sikri, simply amazing.

[dzibead]

iwanttogoback, on Mar 19 2009, 02:05 AM, said:

wow! i've just been to fatephur sikri, simply amazing.

My feeling exactly!  

I just showed cameleer's VR website to my "old India hand" friend who was responsible for dragging me to India for my first trip (she just got back last week from her eighth or ninth trip) and she was blown away.

Roger, your description of how some of the moving animals turn out when you stitch the panos together made me laugh out loud!  

[Hyderabadi]

dzibead, on Mar 20 2009, 12:45 AM, said:

My feeling exactly!  

I just showed cameleer's VR website to my "old India hand" friend who was responsible for dragging me to India for my first trip (she just got back last week from her eighth or ninth trip) and she was blown away.

Roger, your description of how some of the moving animals turn out when you stitch the panos together made me laugh out loud!  

Dzi,
There are photographers and there are.....photographers. Roger takes it to another level. What you see here, on RB's site, imho, is pure, unadelterated, artistry.  I mean, is there a better way to promote tourism to these places in India?  

I'm hoping and wishing that there is some Babu, somewhere, taking note. Please?

[Cameleer]

Thanks Hyderabadi and everyone.

Here are some examples of errors in pano photos.
On this one “Wedding Near Taj Mahal” I spent over an hour fixing stitching errors, but on two errors I only did a little Photoshop work. See if you can spot them.  
http://indiavrtours....ing_night4.html

On this one taken behind the Taj Mahal along the Yamuna River, I really liked it but there was something that I didn’t like, so I spent over an hour in Photoshop fixing it.
What’s been changed here? If you have been down to the river here you should know.
http://www.indiavrto...gra/river4.html

I usually carry a pole that telescopes from about 3 feet to 17 feet, you ever try to get a camera stand into these monuments, that’s a whole story in its self.    

Cheers,
Roger

[unclelach]

Thanks to Cameleer for the marvellous photos.  I found the Jaisalmer Camel Fair pictures particularly interesting.  Are the colours and patterns of the camel blankets significant?
In December 2000 I went on one of the many available overnight camel ride experiences out of Jaisalmer.  All the camels then  had blankets much the same as shown in some of Cameleer's photos eg "Cloes-up..." sic.  It occurs to me they might belong to a particular village or clan or maybe from a certain maker of camel rugs.